98. Running the Open at your box

98. Running the Open at your box

In this episode, your hosts Jason and Todd talk about the early Christmas present we as the Crossfit community are getting… the first-ever, and will probably never happen again the Second open of the year. I’ll wait while you clap and applause, and the screams of excitement … Nope, none? That I thought. But thank you so much Dave for this present that just keeps on giving. As Todd puts it “It’s the most wonder terrible time of the year”. This episode is meant to help Box owners to give you ideas how to not only run the open at your box also how to keep everyone on that high for the second time this year.  You’ll hear some story whereby it’s gotten out of hand, and a little be crazy. But also why it’s important for your members and crossfit community to be part of the worldwide competition, we all know 99% of people doing it are not going to the games or Sacutional? The guys will explain. Todd uses the open in slightly different way that he frames open, which as has been super successful. At the end of the day, it’s part of the culture that we as Crossfiter just do the open, it creates memories and it’s really a time we all push ourselves hard.

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(2:46) Things they’re charging for the second open

(4:41) Why is it important for your members to sign up and how do you get them to do it?

(13:58) The prediction 20.1

(21:32) Doing the open while travelling

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The Obstacle Is The Way You Heard of It – Ryan Holiday 

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Jason Ackerman:
All right. It's Todd and Jay. Fern is MIA. I'm worried about him. But he might pop on at some point.

Todd:
And he's probably prepping for next week when we're gonna be in California watching you do all 16 of those back squats before you crumble to the ground, so you might be getting ready, just laugh at you or something like that.

Jason Ackerman:
I feel like I put that out there and I'm going to have to do it. But I didn't mean it when I said it.

Todd:
Yeah, we knew that because, you know, you can't do it. Oh, yeah, I got it.

Jason Ackerman:
I feel so. Here's the reality. I don't want to do it, but I know I can do it. That makes sense to you. Yeah.

Todd:
It's only one way to see if that's true. I don't trust that it is. But we will see.

Jason Ackerman:
I think it's like all Crossfit, workouts and it's like the Crossfit, open. You don't want to do it, but it's a necessary part of life.

Todd:
I agree with that. That's like the most wonderful, terrible, terrible time of the year.

Jason Ackerman:
Exactly. And this year we've had that twice. It's like two Christmases or like Hanukkah for me. Right. Every year we get a 8 Days. So let me answer your question. Grown up as a kid. Were you guys jealous of Jewish kids that they had eight days of Hanukkah? Did that even cross your mind?

Todd:
No idea. All I knew is that I got present on Christmas morning.

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah. So, you know, this episode's up on Wednesday and it's actually Yom Kippur, which is the basically the highest holiday of the year. It's a really important holiday in the Jewish religion. And Roz is like, do I have to get you presents? What?

Todd:
Yeah. What are you gonna do to celebrate?

Jason Ackerman:
I'll go to my parents. I don't even. I don't do anything. I think. Being Jewish is this weird thing where it's kind of like it's almost like your ethnicity rather. Hey, what are you, Jewish? You know, but you don't really need to do anything to stay. And we don't do anything to remain Caucasian, if you will, like it, just so you know what I mean. Like, that's just what we do. It's like people ask you all the time, like, what's your what's your ethnicity? A Jewish people say Jewish. It's like, no, that's your religion. The point is whether you're practicing or not, because I don't do anything. You know, you you still have these kind of what would I call it, you know, you still have these traditions.

Todd:
Yeah.

Jason Ackerman:
So I have to go to my parents, eat some smoked salmon, because that's what people do.

Todd:
And I'm just not going to I'm not going to contribute to this conversation. I'm going to keep it as is. We're good.

Jason Ackerman:
You know, a handful of Jewish people will completely empathize with what I'm saying. I wonder what percentage of Crossfit, coaches are Jewish.

Todd:
You can put that out on them on a poll.

Jason Ackerman:
All right. If you're a Jewish listener and hopefully you're not listening to this episode on Wednesday because it is the holiday and you should be in temple. But if you are listening, if you are listening, let me know. I want to hear. I want to hear from our Jewish. Fans, so let let's bring into the open, Todd. You run a really successful Crossfit, open and DRiV fitness. You have a show that you put out every week. Your members are really excited about it. You get a big percentage of your community doing it. Let's let's talk about what a box owner can do well to make the open, especially this year. It's going to be a challenge, right? We had to get our members hyped up in February. Now we have to do it again in October. What are some of the things you've changed? Maybe. Over the course of the year, because I know, like you said, you've done some good things. What are some of the things you already know you're going to change?

Todd:
Well, the big, big thing for us is we just try to make it a big celebration. It's at the end of the day. It's just another workout that we're going to be doing each week. So whether it's the open or not, everybody's gonna be doing a workout in the gym on Fridays. These workouts just are slightly different because you can enter your score on a Web site that the world can see rather than just members of your gym. So we just try to make it a celebration kind of clue people in on what it is. It's an opportunity to to celebrate and be a part of the greater Crossfit, community. And it's something that we want everybody to take part in, because it's also something that, you know, it's not necessarily a competition in our eyes. It's it's a celebration, like I said before, because we don't have anybody that that is thinking that it's their way to qualify for the Crossfit, games. It's just a way to throw down and work a little bit harder and and celebrate with with the greater community. So it's something that we always enjoy doing.

Jason Ackerman:
So, OK, so let me ask you in part A, part B. Question part A is how, as a box owner, do you talk to your members and have them understand that this is important for them to sign up? Because like you said, if you don't have any delusion of going to the Crossfit, games, what is the benefit of doing the open? So A, and then B, how do you do that a second time this year?

Todd:
Yeah, I think one in years past, the way we've gotten people to sign up is we just pretty much tell it, tell them, hey, this is a thing that we are doing. You need to go to this Web site and sign up for it. And I don't think we even communicated that this is how you qualify for regionals when that was the thing. And this is how you qualify for the games. It was more like, hey, this is this this big online competition, we're all going to be doing it. So you need to take part in it as well. Sign up and you know, we'll lead you along the way throughout the weekends. And I think we tried to be very selective on what we ask our members to do throughout the year, like on what things we want them to take part in and where we try to push them to to do different things. So I think that what that lends us to is that when we ask them to do something, typically they trust us and they they do it. So in years past, we've asked them to sign up for the open because it's something that everybody in the gym is going to do. So the majority of the people have done that over the years. It's evolved. We turned it into the team competition, kind of like the intermital opened in years past.

Todd:
But we've always tried to make it as inclusive as possible. So instead of having like team captains and dividing or having people pick individuals or dividing the gym into teams based on who actually signs up on the game site, previously we've always gone through and divided the gym up into four different teams and you're on a team whether you sign up on the game's website or not. And then we try to incentivize people to earn points by doing the things that we want them doing in the gym anyways. So that's, you know, signing in when they walk in the door that's entering your scores WoDsugar. Why? That's the system we use to keep track of scores. That's, you know, taking part in whatever sort of team activity we have set up for that week, whether it's where team colors or some sort of costume or something that. And then also you get you get team points and years previously for entering scores on the game's website. Those are the type of things that we want people doing. Those are the behaviors that we want to incentivize over the course of the five weeks.

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah. I mean, you look at it almost like a reboot, if you will, for the gym, reminding members of these good behaviors and patterns that you wanted them to do all year round. And it also reminds me that if you went to like camp when you were a kid, they used to be a week of color war. Do you remember that you're going to camp?

Todd:
Was at a Jewish camp, that you went to Jay?

Jason Ackerman:
It was a Jewish camp? I'm pretty sure like any day camp had like a color wars week. You'd be assigned to a team and be like blue or red. You know, throughout the week, you would be one day where you do wear that color. One day, will you be like, you know, crazy Sock. So you're doing like fun stuff. And I think for a lot of adults, as silly as it is, it's hey, hey, go to work 9:00 to 5:00 every day. It's fun for them to put on their craziest pair of socks and wear an 80s outfit, you know, to reminisce about their heyday. Now, how do you determine who leads those teams?

Todd:
So we that we didn't necessarily have leaders on the team, we would go through and try to divide teams equally by equally, we would put the same number of coaches on each team because we expect the coaches to lead the way as far as the behaviors go.

Todd:
We've got a lead from the front and do all the things we want our athletes to do. And then from there, we would pretty much make a list of like athletes that we're like we know for sure that these people are going to sign up on the Games website. So that's going to get them those points. We know that these people are going to definitely make it to every gym and do that stuff. And we try to equally distribute the people across the teams in order to try to make it pretty close and fair competition throughout the course of the five weeks.

Jason Ackerman:
And this, again, does it get heated, though, D.C., D.C., what do you what would you say? You see more of the competition and people coming out like the ugly side of it or the camaraderie?

Todd:
Oh, definitely the camaraderie. We haven't had anything ugly other than the first year that we did it. We had these every week. We had the first year that we did the Inner Mure or the team version of this thing. We had these five points that would be awarded to to team spirit on a weekly basis. And that one got out of control. We had like a full marching band one one Friday night come through. We had.

Jason Ackerman:
So Somebody hired a marching band?

Yeah, they had they they knew people that were in a band and we had like five or six people show up and their team was doing a marching band through this thing. We had all kinds of crazy things. So much so that by week number five, because the point spread was so close, there was some people on a team that had hired a helicopter to fly in. Two of the people that were throwing down on the like the Thursday night version of this thing. They had already got the green light from our landlord. They had hired the helicopter. They greenlight everything. And then finally, at the last minute, one of the people who was one of our coaches that was going to do the workout, I was like, I cannot do this. This is not right. And so it you know, it got a little got a little crazy.

Todd:
I think that year we also had farm animals in the gym. They brought goats or something because that was one of the team names. So the Team Spirit Awards, because it was so subjective. Got a little off. And to make sure that people won. And so we had to put the stop to that going forward. But yeah, the competition piece of it, it was more people just had fun. We didn't incentivize the scores of the workouts because that's not something that we we are too concerned with. So we don't want to make that a big part of the big part of the competition, but it always made it a good time. And like you said before. We've always had a really good percentage of people that sign up on the game site, but then also take part in the open on a weekly basis. Now, because we're doing it the second time this year and I think people are still kind of coming down from from the last time we did it. We're switching things up a little bit. And instead of dividing the gym into four different teams, we're gonna we're gonna be one collective team. And instead of having people earn points for their team, we're gonna use those same behaviors that we want to incentivize and what those are going to be or what they're going to lead to our entries into a raffle.

Todd:
So every week of the open, we've got a business from the community that is going to sponsor that week. And so we're going to promote that business. They've also donated something that we can raffle off at the end of the week. So people that show up and do the behaviors that we want, they they'll are going to earn more raffles or more entries into the raffle than we can award them different prizes, which will be really, really cool. We'll have different things like in years past that people celebrate and dress up as each week. And then collectively over the course of the five weeks, each of those behaviors continue to enter or provide entries into a raffle. And at the end of the five weeks, we've got some grand prizes, one big raffle that's going to include things like free month to the gym, free entry and a specialty programs that we run, free personal training and things like that. So still trying to incentivize participation. But now, instead of the pressure of trying to have to earn points for your team, you were just earning entries for yourself to potentially win these these grand prizes. So it's a new way that we're doing it this year and we're excited about it. And it seems like the rest, the community and everybody else is excited as well.

Jason Ackerman:
Will you still do your open recap, show?

Todd:
Yeah, we'll still have our update show. Really? That's going to be used to highlight the sponsors that we have for the month and then to inform our members on what's coming up for that specific week. We're also each week going to do something slightly different like so for this first week on Thursday night, we're going to watch the open announcement and then. Right after it's announced all of the coaches are going to throw out and do the workout and kick off the open. We've got Halloween over the course of the open this this time through. So we're gonna have one week where it's dress up in costumes. We're not gonna be doing the Thursday night thing every single week. So we'll use that update show to inform our our members on what we're doing that week and what they can expect and who the sponsor is going to be and what the rules are going to be included for that specific week.

Jason Ackerman:
So you'll be thrown down this Thursday.

Todd:
This Thursday night. So there's gonna be a score out there, Jay, that you can probably know what it is and see with see what you can do that to try to get that elusive one victory that you get to have over the course of all of the open so far.

Jason Ackerman:
So what what's your prediction?

Todd:
I've quit playing that game, I have no idea. I know it's gonna be good. I will say this. I do have one prediction for this year of the Open. I don't know if you're paying attention to Crossfit, dot com. Did you happen to take. Take a look and see what workouts showed up over the course of this weekend.

Jason Ackerman:
Oh no I didn't look at it this past weekend.

Todd:
So they posted the the dumbbell lunge, step up, strict handstand, push up and handstand what worked on last Saturday.

Jason Ackerman:
Now ask from 2 years, you know. Right?

Na it was from. Yeah, from this last year's open. But they didn't label it as an open workout. They just labeled it as a workout. So falling in line with what they did for the games this year where they posted the opening work out of the games on Crossfit, on the night before. That's my assumption and that's my prediction is that is our repeat for this year. So I'll be interested. Interested to see if that's actually the case. That's that's the only prediction I got.

Jason Ackerman:
I agree and believe it will be either a repeat or a classic girl workout. You know what?

Todd:
What do you what do you mean for the for the repeat in general for the benchmark work out of the year? What are you saying? or The first week?

Jason Ackerman:
A little of both. I think I think well, definitely. We always see a repeat. But I do think whether it's a repeat in week one or at somewhere down the road, we're going to see a classic girl work out like we've never seen before. You know, we've seen variations of Diane in the work you're referring to we've seen variations of Frand with, you know, rounds of fifteen or climbing wraps, but we've never actually seen a true girl workout. And I think we see that this year straight up for time and see what the best in the world can do.

Todd:
Yeah, so it'll be interesting if that's the case. Yeah.

Jason Ackerman:
What are some other things, you know, box owners or coaches are listening to this as well as athletes, and we would encourage everyone to do it. It's just, you know, it's part of the culture. If you can believe what you want about Crossfit, right now, you can believe what you want about having a second open. But if you do Crossfit,, this is kind of part of what you do every year. Compare yourself to the past. Compare yourself to friends around the world like Todd and I will be going at it from a distance. But what are what are some of the other little things you might encourage a box to do around this time of year too? It doesn't really matter if people sign up. They use this as an opportunity to just grow the community of their box.

Todd:
Yeah, I think the big thing is just to. Make it about how fun it is, the celebration of it. And heres the. Here's the deal. At the end of the day, if you sign up on the Crossfit, Games website and you know that you have to enter your score for whatever reason, it means a little bit more and therefore you're gonna push a little bit harder. And it's funny because I promise you, no one's like searching my name to see how well I did, but for whatever reason in my head yeah, exactly. And you're the person I'm going to text and tell the score to anyways. But I think so much of us get caught up in what our scores are going to be. And we are so worried that everybody we know or everybody in the world will be looking at our score on the leaderboard. And if we can't put that score out there that we think that we should. We don't want to sign up for the opening and put our scores in. But it's like heads up. No, nobody looking at your score. Nobody cares. Like nobody's searching. Jason Ackerman out there on the now.

Jason Ackerman:
I think more people are search me then you.

Todd:
To get a good chuckle out of this thing. But it's like you're not going to be up at the top of the leaderboards. It always gets your score. So, you know, one signing up and putting putting yourself out there is gonna make you push a little bit harder. I don't know why that's the case, but that is the case. So I encourage courage. Box owners, too, too, to try to push their athletes to do that. But in order for them to have any credibility doing that, they need to do the same thing themselves. They need to be the ones signing up. They also need to be the ones thrown down and doing the workouts and being okay, just giving it everything you've got. And whatever that score is you in there on the Web site and you know, you have to scale for that week or whatever happens, you just put it out there and do that and then just try to make it fun. It's an opportunity to push yourself. It's it shouldn't be an opportunity where you get so stressed out about what your score is gonna be, because that's the only thing that we care about and focus on that there's people that are like, well, I'll do the open workout, but I don't want to score. That's just because, you know, a lot of times they're worried about what their scores going to be, which in the reality of that, it's just another workout. So try to keep it keep it fun, keep it light and try to get as many people involved as possible.

Jason Ackerman:
And true, there are workouts every year and the open is a part of that where you get nervous beforehand when it really doesn't matter. But isn't.

Todd:
It's just another workout? That's the fun part.

Jason Ackerman:
And that's the beauty of Crossfit,, like how many things you know in our lives. Most of the listeners out there, like how many things, us included, do we do that actually challenge us and make us grow? Very few. Once you're an adult on a regular basis, make one of that.

Todd:
Yeah. That make you potentially a little bit nervous. You know that it matters a little bit more. Why? I have no idea. Right. We're not qualifying for anything, but it matters a little bit more, which is a good thing. You should feel a little bit nervous and you want to do your best. And every year you continue to hear story after story of people that got their first double under chest to bar pull up or toes the bar bar, muscle up or whatever that is. And this is your opportunity to do that. Also with inside the walls of the gym, this is you know, this is kind of the time of year where. Me as a coach, all allow people to try things that maybe I wouldn't let them try in a regular class. Because there is an R X weight out there and our X movement. And if somebody is close to it, I might let them give it a try for a couple reps as long as they're moving safely and there's no risk. And that's gonna be their opportunity to do something that maybe they didn't think they could do or know that they could do. And all of a sudden that's going to propel them forward going into the next year, you know, with a little bit more confidence that they're able to lift a little bit more weight than they thought or do a movement that they weren't sure they were able to do. So give your athletes an opportunity to feel that kind of that kind of win and celebrate that with them.

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah. I think that's a really good point. It is a jumping off or catalyst for a lot of people. You know, when you see them get their first bar muscle up and now all of a sudden a movement they might not have tried or been able to do. They're trying to put in every workout going forward because they know they can do it. It's just when you when you feel those nerves, that's typically when you're gonna rise to the occasion and show you show everyone and yourself, most importantly, when you are truly capable of doing.

Todd:
Yeah.

Jason Ackerman:
And that's what I'm going to show you guys next week at the summit. I truly you know. But the big question in my mind is, am I going to hit a fifty first rep just to throw it in your faces? You know, I can keep going like one of those things.

Todd:
I don't see that being the case, so I can't wait. This will be great. Speaking of that, we're gonna be on the road next week, right, for the second week of the open. And it sounds like you're gonna be on the road pretty much the whole entire time. So how what's your approach gonna be to the open? So you're not really gonna be at a home box and able to do the Friday night lights thing every week and all of that kind of stuff. So how are you going to approach the open? Are you gonna try to make sure that you do every workout? Are you going to score to enter your scores? What are your what are your thoughts and how do you still take part in the celebration and all of that?

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah, it's tough living in a lot of staff members were always on the road on the weekends period and I'll be on the road a little bit more in the next couple of weeks. But I think what I usually try to do is. Typically, regardless of when I'm traveling for a seminar, I can get an in Friday morning. I don't like to do the whole Thursday night thing. It's late. It's you know, I'm in bed by that point. So I get up on Friday and hit it. And usually if I can get in the 9am class at the box, we partner up with team we a week, we judge for one another whether or not everyone's in the open or all or I'll call it my buddy or Ross. I tried not to get Ross to judge me because A, she's really a hard judge. She does not let me.

Todd:
She make to meet the standard.

Jason Ackerman:
Yes. And I don't like it.

Todd:
Actually, it makes you get the wall ball over the over the ten foot line. She doesn't lets you throw it to eight foot. But like you will.

Jason Ackerman:
Remember back in the day, you no reped me on those wallballs.

Todd:
Cause you didn't even hit the wall or get it height of the traget.

Jason Ackerman:
That was a bro rep. That was a bro rep. And it cost me. It cost me, I think the win on that. So I usually and I think I'm like everyone. I'll hit it Friday. I'll check out your score as well as. So I don't really know what I compared to other than the box. I look at the people of the box, I'd like to be in the top. When I first moved to this area, it was like I could be in the top three. And then I slowly dropped down because a people have gotten better and new members have joined. So, I mean, like,.

Todd:
What else? What's what's B, you're not as go ahead a minute B. You're not nearly as fit. Number 1. You weren't very fit back then.

Jason Ackerman:
I'm older. I'm older. These are youngsters coming up. So, you know, it's like you know, it's like being a professional. You can relate, like being a professional ballplayer. Like you're hanging on. You're still good. I'm still in the majors, but I'm watching the college people. Come off. And like, who is the next guy? And then try to bump me off. So. I try if I can hang on to the top this year at the box. It's gonna be hard to even be in the top 10.

Jason Ackerman:
We've got to we've got a solid box, but, you know, hit it on Friday. And then, like I said, I'll look at who who is at the box, how you did and. I will go into it, assuming I'm going to hit it once and I will probably wind hitting a couple of the workouts twice, even though it's meaningless. We still do that to ourselves.

Todd:
It's meaningless, but it's fun, right?

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah.

Todd:
if if you know that or if you if you enjoyed the workout, it might be a reason to do it a second time. Or if you can think you think you can do a little bit better and it's not going to crush you. why not? I used to be one of the guys that was like one and no matter what. This is stupid. My score doesn't matter. And just in the last couple of years, if I decided to do a few of them a second time just because I thought the workout was fun. And by the way, I'm going to work out that day anyways. Does it really matter what the workout is? I want to try this one again. Let's see what happens.

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah. And by the way, I think the best work I had in February opened was the one. There was a two parter that had the. Snatch Bupree and then forget.

Todd:
Oh, yeah,.

Jason Ackerman:
And then the muscle up? And I literally landed from a red eye. We were in Hawaii. Hey, back landed. No sleep like Roz just completely skipped that day. She was like, I'm not going to do the open this week. And I went in. I think I had my I almost finished the entire workout, which I was like five muscle ups away, which for me as my best score at the box. So it's just like. But the point is it it forced me. There's no way I would have worked out on that day.

Todd:
Or or worked at hard, right?

Jason Ackerman:
Definitely. Yeah. You know, in your mind you would have been like ab tired. I just landed. No big deal. But I was like, well, here's what they're getting. And my buddy Dan was doing it for the second time so I can add someone to pace off of. And it's just it's a good opportunity. I think everyone should be challenging themselves more, as you and I were discussing before the show. I'm going through a big challenge and, you know, part of me. To relate everything back to me, I think recently I've done a lot of reading and there's a book I like called The Obstacle Is The Way You Heard of It. Great book by Ryan Holiday and in Life. I'm trying to look at things as like, if I don't want to do this and it looks challenging, I probably should do it. And I think people should do be open for that reason. You know, it's for most people, I would tell you, it's not the $20. It's not the anger about what Crossfit, is doing in health. It's nothing other than that. Probably just a little scared to show up.

Todd:
Yeah, I agree with that. So the reason they think that people are going to be looking at their score, which they're not, by the way, and they're worried that their score won't be what what they expect it to be or hoped it was.

Jason Ackerman:
Yeah. And mine will be very well.

Todd:
Yeah. We'll we'll be less than. Yes. Absolutely.

Jason Ackerman:
So you know what? About two years ago Roz and I got married and I've got to find the video. I mean, I know where the video is, but I don't want to put the whole video up. Roz reached out to my friends, some not some close friends like Todd, and asked for some video contribution. Oh, no, it wasn't for the wedding is for my 40th birthday, remember? So it made a real I find it. And it's out there on YouTube, I'm sure. Todd made a funny video about our record of the open and have I ever won one year? Correct.

Todd:
I think like the very first year of the open, you beat me.

Jason Ackerman:
And then my fitness declined and Todds rose.

Todd:
Something like that. Yeah,.

Jason Ackerman:
It's been I think it's been a hard time for you to be Jason Ackerman in the open against Todd, but I'm feeling confident this year.

Todd:
This might be your year. That's my barrier. I'm still hung over from the from from last year open. I only say this all the time. I've got five intense workouts a year and I use mine up in February. I'm not ready for these five. So we'll see how it goes.

Jason Ackerman:
We'll see how it goes. We got our predictions in. Use this as an opportunity. It's not too late. You know, you listen to this on Wednesday, the opening gets announced Thursday. It's not too late. People have until Monday to sign up and get their scores in. Even if you haven't done anything, just make a big deal of the workout on Friday, you know, get people judging each other. We talked about rep shaving last week and we had a lot of people reach out to us about that. And simply saying by doing some of the things like partnering up or kind of counting from the side and having conversations, they eliminated a lot of that. So use this as your excuse to partner up and count people's reps and everything comes out in the open and it's going to be a good year. So we're gonna be in San Diego, but we won't be there for that for any of the Open workouts. Right. Because we can. We're gonna fly home on Thursday. Correct. But we will be there for the big for the big one. I'm gonna I'm gonna go stretch it. I'm gonna get my hips ready for this.

Todd:
You need to do more than stretch, my friend.

Jason Ackerman:
Oh, know. Without a time limit, because there's no time limit on this. And I could just stand there and take a deep breath and I'll hit all 50.

Todd:
Yeah. Standing there with one eighty five on your back. Resting. Quote unquote, resting. That's going to make you feel way better. You're right. You're gonna be good. I'm yes I would. I would go one minute between reps. Think of it as a 50 minute emom or you're just holding the bar on your back. I think that's a good approach. Jay. I think you'll work out really, really well.

Jason Ackerman:
I got it. I got this. All right. Well, now you've heard it. The open is come and be ready for it. If you have more questions on it, reach out to us. But thanks, Todd, for letting us know how to drive. Fitness runs it. And hopefully everyone that just listen to this will have a successful open at their box.

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